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Walt Disney (NYSE:DIS)
This autumn 2020 Earnings Name
Nov 12, 2020, 4:30 p.m. ET


  • Ready Remarks
  • Questions and Solutions
  • Name Individuals

Ready Remarks:


Girls and gents, thanks for standing by, and welcome to Disney’s fiscal full yr and This autumn 2020 earnings outcomes convention name. [Operator instructions] Please be suggested that right now’s convention is being recorded. [Operator instructions] I’d now like at hand the convention over to your speaker, Mr. Lowell Singer, senior vp, investor relations.

Please go forward.

Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

Good afternoon, and welcome to The Walt Disney Firm’s fourth-quarter 2020 earnings name. Our press launch was issued about 25 minutes in the past and is offered on our web site at www.disney.com/buyers. Immediately’s name can also be being webcast, and a transcript of this name will likely be accessible on our web site. We notice lots of you might be becoming a member of us right now out of your houses, and we’re additionally internet hosting right now’s name remotely.

So becoming a member of me from their houses are Bob Chapek, Disney’s chief govt officer; and Christine McCarthy, senior govt vp and chief monetary officer. Following feedback from Bob and Christine, we’ll, in fact, be blissful to take some questions. So with that, let me flip the decision over to Bob to get began.

Bob ChapekChief Govt Officer

Thanks, Lowell, and good afternoon, everybody. As we shut out the fourth quarter and replicate again on the yr, I feel we would all agree it has been a yr not like another in our lifetimes and positively within the historical past of The Walt Disney Firm. Regardless of the various challenges and hardships, I am proud to say we have now been steadfast in successfully managing our companies below enormously troublesome circumstances. We’ve not simply persevered throughout these robust occasions.

We have additionally taken quite a few deliberate steps and sensible dangers which have positioned our firm for higher long-term development. And the spectacular resilience Disney has demonstrated whereas trying previous right now’s challenges to set the stage for a fair brighter future is a direct reflection of our excellent workforce. They’ve completed and proceed to do an admirable job balancing the wants of our solid, our shareholders and our friends. In fact, the true vivid spot amid the pandemic has been our direct-to-consumer enterprise.

One yr in the past right now, we launched Disney+, and it has shortly exceeded our highest expectations. We now have since rolled out the service in additional than 20 international locations worldwide. And on Tuesday, we’ll launch in Latin America, together with Brazil, Mexico, Chile and Argentina adopted by extra abroad markets within the coming yr. The response from shoppers has been overwhelmingly constructive.

All over the place that we have launched Disney+, audiences have embraced the big selection of high-quality leisure, each unique and library content material. And I am happy to report that as of the top of the fourth quarter, Disney+ had greater than 73 million paid subscribers, far surpassing our expectations in simply its first yr, and we’re persevering with to see constructive developments. Throughout our Investor Day presentation on December 10, we’ll present an replace of our international subscriber numbers. The expansion of Disney+ speaks volumes in regards to the power of our IP, our unparalleled manufacturers and franchises and our superb content material creators, all a part of the Disney distinction that units us aside from everybody else.

And while you look throughout our full suite of streaming service, we have now exceeded 120 million paid subscriptions worldwide, with spectacular subscriber features for ESPN+ and Hulu, together with the quickly rising Hulu + Stay TV. We count on the worldwide launch of our Star-branded basic leisure providing will allow us to develop our enterprise even additional within the years forward. On condition that our DTC enterprise is essential to the longer term development of our firm, we have restructured our media and leisure companies. By separating content material creation from distribution, we have been in a position to streamline our processes and higher align the group towards these essential strategic aims as we speed up our pivot to a DTC-first enterprise mannequin.

We intend to construct upon the success we have achieved up to now and stay up for sharing extra of our plans with you at our upcoming Investor Day. Whereas the pandemic continues to impression our firm, leading to an adjusted lack of $0.20 a share within the fourth quarter, the extended state of affairs has prompted us to seek out new and revolutionary methods to cope with the troublesome and sometimes unpredictable challenges we’re going through. We efficiently made changes and have resumed lots of our operations, clearly demonstrating the resiliency The Walt Disney Firm is understood for. Whereas lots of our productions had been shut down starting in March on account of COVID, our animation groups had been in a position to work remotely and have continued manufacturing uninterrupted in the course of the pandemic.

We had been additionally lucky to maintain different components of our inventive pipeline lively and to proceed post-production work for our Media Networks studios and Disney+. We have been in a position to develop processes and institute well being and security measures which have made it attainable to renew live-action manufacturing as effectively. In fact, the unpredictability of COVID might lead to unexpected impacts to present and future productions. On the studio facet, we have now restarted or accomplished manufacturing on the entire tasks beforehand impacted by COVID, together with ones from our Marvel Studios, 20th Century Studios, Searchlight Photos, Disney Stay Motion and Lucasfilm, and we anticipate having eight new tasks up and operating by January.

On the TV facet, we now have greater than 100 live-action scripted and unscripted tasks in lively manufacturing with dozens extra in varied levels of pre- or post-production. Throughout all platforms, there was an amazing response to our content material. A few weeks in the past, we rolled out the extremely anticipated second season of The Mandalorian to rave opinions and unimaginable social buzz. There’s been a lot pleasure surrounding the announcement that Disney/Pixar’s Soul will likely be debuting on Disney+ on Christmas Day.

And on the broadcasting facet, ABC is now ranked No. 1, delivering a few of the hottest and most watched reveals on tv, together with Dancing with the Stars and The Conners. I wish to take this chance to acknowledge our unimaginable native and nationwide ABC Information groups for the excellent work they proceed to do below very troublesome circumstances. They have been working across the clock, ensuring viewers nationwide have entry to a very powerful and correct data significantly because it pertains to the COVID pandemic.

They usually’ve additionally completed an impressive job reporting on the election in an informative and balanced approach. From Good Morning America holding its spot because the No. 1 morning newscast for the eighth straight yr to World Information Tonight with David Muir constantly rating because the No. 1 night newscast, in addition to the No.

1 program on all broadcast and cable tv within the U.S. over the summer time, there is no such thing as a query ABC Information is America’s No. 1 information supply. On the park facet, we have confirmed over many months that we’re in a position to function our parks responsibly, following strictly enforced tips offered by healthcare consultants, efficiently reopening our parks in Orlando, Shanghai, Tokyo and Hong Kong.

We have additionally reopened Disneyland Paris for a number of months, though the resort is now quickly closed on account of President Macron’s current lockdown order in response to a resurgence in COVID instances in Europe. Folks have proven a willingness to go to our parks, which I consider is a testomony to the truth that they really feel assured within the measures we have taken. And we’re very inspired by the constructive information earlier this week on the progress of potential vaccines. Sadly, we’re extraordinarily upset that the State of California continues to maintain Disneyland closed regardless of our confirmed monitor report.

Our well being and security protocols are all science-based and have the assist of labor unions representing 99% of our hourly solid members. Frankly, as we and different civic leaders have acknowledged earlier than, we consider state management ought to look objectively at what we have achieved efficiently at our parks all over the world all based mostly on science versus setting an arbitrary customary that’s precluding our solid members from getting again to work whereas decimating small companies in the area people. Our potential to function responsibly on this pandemic setting extends past our theme parks. I am proud to say that we had been efficiently in a position to host the NBA and MLS at Walt Disney World in Orlando.

It has been an enormous endeavor and an amazing achievement. Simply take into account the NBA for instance: 94 days, 22 groups, 172 video games, gamers, broadcast companions, referees, media, assist employees and Disney staff all within the bubble. It was additionally a giant win for ESPN, which broadcast the video games together with a packed schedule of different sports activities choices, together with the WNBA, school soccer, Main League Baseball and the NFL. As you have a look at essentially the most watched cable reveals on TV this yr, greater than half have been stay sports activities, proving that sports activities are a strong draw regardless of the disruption of the pandemic.

ESPN Digital and ESPN+ have additionally carried out exceptionally effectively, with September being one of the best month ever for ESPN streaming video. ESPN+ continues its constructive subscriber development, reaching greater than 10 million paid subscribers as of the top of the quarter, practically tripling in measurement over the previous yr. As you’ll be able to see, even throughout these most unsure occasions, right here at The Walt Disney Firm, we’re discovering methods to not solely function our companies successfully but in addition take the required daring steps for our future development. And we’re extra dedicated than ever to investing in our companies, particularly our DTC technique, which we see as the important thing driver of serious long-term worth for our firm.

We stay up for sharing particulars of our plans with you at our Investor Day subsequent month. We can also’t wait so that you can see the extraordinary content material that is being created for our full portfolio of streaming providers, Disney+, ESPN+, Hulu and Star. It is simply implausible. And with that, I am going to flip it over to Christine.

Christine McCarthySenior Govt Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

Thanks, Bob, and good afternoon, everybody. Excluding sure objects affecting comparability, the fiscal fourth quarter’s diluted earnings per share was a lack of $0.20, and our full-year fiscal 2020 diluted EPS was $2.02. Our monetary outcomes continued to replicate vital impacts from COVID-19, which we estimate adversely impacted phase working revenue in This autumn by $3.1 billion. Our Parks, Experiences and Merchandise phase was once more essentially the most severely affected with an estimated adversarial impression of $2.Four billion within the fourth quarter.

We estimate that Media Networks working revenue was negatively impacted by roughly $500 million on account of COVID largely on account of greater rights prices at ESPN related to programming within the fourth quarter that was delayed from prior quarters. One other issue that affected our This autumn outcomes was the 53rd week. Whereas final quarter we guided to the 53rd week having a modest adversarial impression on working outcomes, the extra week of operations really resulted in a profit. There have been a couple of causes behind this variance, however the largest driver was associated to the timing of sports activities rights prices.

I am going to now flip to our outcomes by phase. At Parks, Experiences and Merchandise, monetary leads to the quarter had been considerably impacted by restricted capability and closures. Working revenue at Parks, Experiences and Merchandise declined considerably versus the prior yr to an working lack of $1.1 billion. This displays the closures of Disneyland Resort in California and our cruise line enterprise for everything of the quarter.

Shanghai Disney Resort was open for the total quarter after reopening in Might, whereas Walt Disney World Resort and Disneyland Paris reopened in mid-July. Hong Kong Disneyland Resort was opened for a few weeks originally and finish of the quarter. All of our reopened parks and resorts had been working at considerably diminished capacities throughout This autumn. Nevertheless, we’re happy to report that Walt Disney World, Shanghai Disney Resort and Hong Kong Disneyland all achieved a internet constructive contribution within the quarter, which implies we generated income that exceeded the variable prices related to reopening.

At Walt Disney World, we’re additionally inspired by the reserving developments we’re seeing. Park reservations at our diminished capability limits are already 77% booked for Q1, with Thanksgiving week booked near capability. These developments present us with additional confidence round underlying shopper demand for our parks and experiences. At Studio Leisure, working revenue decreased within the quarter on account of decrease theatrical distribution and residential leisure outcomes.

Worldwide theatrical outcomes continued to be adversely impacted by COVID-19 as theaters had been closed in lots of key markets, each domestically and internationally. With no vital worldwide theatrical releases within the quarter, we confronted a troublesome comparability in opposition to the robust efficiency of The Lion King and Toy Story Four within the prior-year quarter. The lower was partially offset by decrease advertising and marketing bills. Decrease residence leisure outcomes had been pushed by decrease unit gross sales, additionally partially offset by decrease advertising and marketing bills.

Unit gross sales had been decrease within the quarter as there have been no comparable releases versus the prior-year efficiency of Avengers: Endgame, Aladdin and Captain Marvel. Turning to Media Networks. Working revenue was up within the fourth quarter on account of greater outcomes at Broadcasting, partially offset by decrease outcomes at Cable Networks. At Broadcasting, the rise in working revenue was primarily on account of affiliate income development and decrease programming, manufacturing and advertising and marketing prices.

The lower in programming and manufacturing prices was largely pushed by COVID-19-related manufacturing shutdowns and cancellations of community programming, the shift of school soccer video games to fiscal 2021 and a delay in airing new season premieres. Decrease outcomes at Cable Networks had been pushed by decreases at ESPN, partially offset by will increase at FX Networks and the Home Disney Channels. ESPN outcomes had been decrease as affiliate and promoting income development had been greater than offset by greater programming and manufacturing prices. At ESPN, greater programming and manufacturing prices had been largely on account of COVID-related shifts of rights prices for the NBA and Main League Baseball into the fourth quarter.

This included two NBA Finals video games and 16 MLB postseason video games that fell into the 53rd week. Complete ESPN promoting income was up 26% within the fourth quarter, together with the good thing about the 53rd week. The return of stay sports activities occasions drove greater charges, barely offset by viewership declines. To date this quarter, ESPN home linear money advert gross sales are pacing beneath the prior yr primarily on account of shifts in school soccer schedules significantly for the Huge Ten and the Pac-12.

Given the timing of programming remaining within the quarter, we at present count on that ESPN promoting income will finish the primary quarter greater versus the prior yr. Complete Media Networks affiliate income elevated 12% within the quarter. This was pushed by a advantage of eight factors from the 53rd week and eight factors of development from greater charges, offset by a four-point decline on account of a lower in subscribers. The lower in subscribers benefited by about two factors from the launch of the ACC Community.

At Direct-to-Shopper & Worldwide, an working lack of $580 million within the quarter was an enchancment of roughly $170 million in comparison with the prior yr. This enchancment was pushed by greater outcomes at Hulu and ESPN+, partially offset by prices related to the continued rollout of Disney+ and a lower at our worldwide channels. At Hulu, the advance was primarily on account of each subscriber and promoting income development, partially offset by greater programming and manufacturing prices. The advance at ESPN+ was on account of subscriber development, in addition to elevated pay-per-view revenue from UFC occasions.

Hulu ended the fourth quarter with 36.6 million paid subscribers, and ESPN+ ended the quarter with 10.Three million paid subscribers. Disney+ ended This autumn with 73.7 million paid subscribers or a rise of over 16 million subscribers versus Q3. Disney+ Hotstar subscriber additions had been the most important contributor to this improve, pushed by the beginning of the delayed IPL season. Disney+ Hotstar subscribers now account for a bit over 1 / 4 of our international subscriber base.

Disney+’s total ARPU this quarter was $4.52. Nevertheless, excluding Disney+ Hotstar, it was $5.30. On our final earnings name, we stated that we anticipated the fourth-quarter working outcomes of our DTC companies to enhance by roughly $100 million relative to the prior-year quarter. Our outcomes got here in higher than that steerage, with working revenue at our DTC companies bettering by roughly $300 million versus the prior yr on account of better-than-expected efficiency throughout all three of our streaming providers.

I’ll observe that we don’t plan to additional replace any of our subscriber numbers till our Investor Day on December 10. At our worldwide channels, decrease outcomes had been on account of decrease affiliate and promoting revenues, partially offset by a lower in prices. Switching gears. I wish to take a second to provide you an replace on our 21CF acquisition.

We beforehand acknowledged our expectation that the deal could be accretive to EPS, excluding the impression of buy accounting for fiscal 2021. Whereas COVID actually had an impression on these numbers, we estimate the acquisition of 21CF and the impression of taking full operational management of Hulu had been accretive in each Q3 and This autumn of fiscal 2020, excluding the impression of buy accounting. As a sensible matter, given our current reorganization and the profitable and full integration of those belongings into The Walt Disney Firm, it’s now not sensible nor will we consider it might be insightful into our companies to interrupt out 21CF efficiency. Due to this fact, we don’t intend to debate legacy Fox outcomes or accretion on a go-forward foundation.

As we have mentioned on prior calls, whereas our liquidity place stays robust, we’re persevering with to handle our leverage with a long-term dedication to return to ranges in keeping with a single A credit standing. As a part of that dedication and given restricted visibility on account of COVID and our choice to prioritize funding in our DTC initiatives, the board has determined to forego cost of a semiannual dividend in January 2021. Our capital allocation technique will proceed to prioritize investing within the development of our companies, significantly within the direct-to-consumer area. Nevertheless, we anticipate the cost of a dividend will stay part of our long-term capital allocation technique following the return to a normalized working setting.

As we glance ahead, we count on that our leads to fiscal 2021 will proceed to be impacted by COVID-19. Our visibility is restricted and will likely be influenced by quite a few components, together with, however not restricted to, the restoration of theatrical exhibition, confidence in shopper journey and the continued resumption of stay sports activities. However as we sit right here right now, there are a couple of objects we wish to spotlight that will assist body expectations for the primary quarter. Our parks and experiences enterprise continues to be impacted by COVID-19, and we would not have visibility into how lengthy these impacts will final.

Whereas a few of our parks are open with restricted capability, we at present anticipate Disneyland Resort will stay closed at the least by means of the top of the fiscal first quarter. Disneyland Paris can also be at present closed. As a result of we have now no vital tentpole theatrical releases deliberate for Q1, we count on that our theatrical outcomes will likely be meaningfully beneath the prior yr, throughout which we launched Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker and Frozen 2. We additionally anticipate that residence leisure, stage play and studio TV SVOD outcomes will likely be meaningfully decrease yr over yr.

Equally, at shopper merchandise, we count on merchandise licensing leads to Q1 to be adversely impacted on account of comparisons versus Star Wars and Frozen merchandise within the prior yr. At ESPN, first-quarter outcomes will likely be considerably impacted by greater rights and manufacturing prices because of the shift of 4 NBA Finals video games and three further school soccer playoff video games into quarter, together with incremental common season school soccer rights prices shifting into the quarter. This impression is partially offset by an anticipated delayed begin to the 2020-2021 NBA season. We count on the Q1 working outcomes of our DTC companies to say no by roughly $100 million relative to the prior-year quarter pushed by continued funding in Disney+, partially offset by improved outcomes at each ESPN+ and Hulu.

At our worldwide channels enterprise, we count on first-quarter working outcomes to say no by roughly $300 million versus the prior-year quarter pushed by a mixture of upper sports activities rights prices on account of timing shifts, COVID-related impacts and channel closures. Our capital expenditures in fiscal 2020 had been roughly $Four billion, down about $850 million from the prior yr on account of decreased spending at our home parks and resorts. We count on capex in fiscal-year 2021 to be $550 million greater versus fiscal-year 2020 on account of elevated investments at our media and leisure distribution companies and at company, partially offset by diminished spending at Parks, Experiences and Merchandise. As we have beforehand famous, we’ll begin reporting below our new organizational construction within the first fiscal quarter of 2021.

Whereas our reporting segments will change, we intend to offer key monetary and supplemental data, together with a lot of what we report right now, significantly because it pertains to our direct-to-consumer companies. As at all times, our aim is to offer the wanted transparency into our companies. We stay very enthusiastic about our future, and we additionally stay up for sharing extra particulars on our evolving DTC technique at our December 10 digital Investor Day. And with that, I am going to flip the decision over to Lowell, and we might be blissful to take your questions.

Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

OK. Thanks, Christine. And as we do transition to the Q&A, let me observe that since we aren’t bodily collectively this afternoon, I’ll do my greatest to average this by directing your inquiries to the suitable govt. And with that, operator, we’re prepared for the primary query.

Questions & Solutions:


In fact. Our first query will come from Michael Nathanson with MoffettNathanson. Please go forward.

Michael NathansonMoffettNathanson — Analyst

Thanks. Lowell, I’ve two so that you can shepherd. The primary is on ESPN. You simply introduced some price cuts, however I questioned if the corporate is taking a contemporary have a look at their content material rights wants and if there’s any sort of replace on the willingness to possibly reduce on a few of the rights you’ve got had beforehand.

How do you concentrate on that? After which secondly for whoever you wish to ship it to, through the years, Disney made a fairly good move to chop again the variety of movies they launch yearly to deal with high quality and franchises. And I simply surprise now with the reorganization and the brand new sport plan at DTC, how will sort of the standard of the franchises and the content material output be managed because it’s elevated, proper? So it appears prefer it’s a change when it comes to the output of the group. I simply wish to hear in regards to the high quality administration of that. Thanks, Lowell.

Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

OK. Michael, thanks. I’ll flip each of these over to Bob.

Bob ChapekChief Govt Officer

All proper. Thanks. Michael, when it comes to ESPN and the price cuts, we’re clearly watching our prices throughout all of our working items very fastidiously in gentle of the adversity that we’re going through with the pandemic. However long run, as we have a look at our content material proper wants, we’re it from a shareholder standpoint.

If it is accretive to shareholder worth, then there are selections that we make going ahead when it comes to new rights as they expire and what we wish to placed on to our service. So we’re being very deliberate and we’re being very cautious and analyzing the whole lot to ensure that it might be one thing that will be additive to us. And I would say that we have got superb relationships with all of the leagues, and it is essential. We proceed to consider in sports activities.

As a matter of reality, in 2019, 93 of the highest 100 applications in viewership on tv had been sports activities. And as you recognize, we have got essentially the most trusted model on the market on the planet when it comes to sports activities. So we consider that is a pleasant recipe for future success, however we notice that the world is altering and there is lots of dynamics at play, however we’ll solely do proceed rights offers so long as they add shareholder worth. By way of the second query when it comes to the — trying on the variety of movies and the quantity of content material that we put into the system, you are proper.

Over time, we have been very, very discriminate when it comes to what forms of movies we make and what number of we make. And I feel that is actually benefited the corporate. We’re in a world although now in a subscription enterprise the place we’re managing churn. And we have got a novel mixture of belongings on this firm which might be all at play proper now in Disney+, the place we have not solely received essentially the most fascinating library on the planet however we notice — and that basically helps, by the best way, reduce churn, however we additionally notice that new content material that we put add subscribers.

It’s totally clear to us that new content material provides subscribers. So I feel you will see a continued improve in funding in our direct-to-consumer platforms, and that can then gasoline a few of the development that Christine will speak about on the investor convention that we count on on December 10.


Thanks. Our subsequent query will come from Alexia Quadrani with JP Morgan. Please go forward.

Alexia QuadraniJ.P. Morgan — Analyst

Thanks. Only a little bit of a follow-up query, if I could, on the studio content material commentary. I’d love any shade you would give doubtlessly on what you discovered from the discharge of Mulan into premium video-on-demand and actually how you concentrate on, at the least how you’ve got thought of it prior to now, your choice to allocate content material on totally different platforms. For instance, why Mulan goes to A or PVOD, however Soul’s going on to Disney+, for instance.

So any ideas there? After which my second simply follow-up query is admittedly on the parks. You have made some actual enchancment in slicing your losses this quarter from the final quarter. I assume is it possible to imagine you’ll be able to proceed to see additional enchancment in that phase with out Disneyland opening? Thanks.

Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

Alexia, thanks a lot. So Bob, I am going to flip them each over to you, Mulan and Soul, after which a few of the developments we’re seeing at parks.

Bob ChapekChief Govt Officer

OK. Nice. So from a studio content material standpoint, we had been more than happy with the outcomes of Mulan as a premier entry title. And as you keep in mind, that was our very first foray into a technique like premier entry.

Sadly, that title met with some controversy, each within the U.S. and internationally, shortly after we launched it. However we noticed sufficient very constructive outcomes earlier than that controversy began to know that we have got one thing right here when it comes to the premier entry technique. And I feel we’ll speak a bit bit extra about that on the investor convention in December.

By way of Soul, we additionally realized although that a part of the lifeblood of Disney+ is offering nice content material to the base-level subscribers which might be in there in premier — or in Disney+. And so the thought is that we thought it was a very nice gesture to our subscribers to take Soul in the course of the vacation interval and supply that as a part of the service. However I feel what we have discovered with Mulan is that there is going to be a job for it strategically with our portfolio of choices. And once more, we will speak extra about that on the investor convention in December.

By way of our alternatives to proceed to enhance parks, we’re really very inspired by what we’re seeing proper now in our parks internationally. There’s actually two dynamics which might be occurring. Primary, our park operators, which, as you recognize, are one of the best on the planet, have gotten rather more environment friendly and efficient in working below COVID tips. And we have been in a position to fairly materially improve our capability and nonetheless keep inside the tips that native governments are giving us, for instance, six-foot social distancing.

And that is occurring throughout our parks internationally. In actual fact, Walt Disney World, which was at a 25% capability constraint, which was our industrial engineering estimates to maintain six-foot social distancing, now has been in a position to improve to 35% of capability, so nearly a 50% improve within the variety of friends that we are able to permit in and nonetheless adhere to the native tips and the rules which might be stipulated by the CDC with the six-foot social distancing. So we’re more than happy by how we have grow to be adept at working below these constraints. However the second factor that is much more encouraging is the demanding — demand that is rising for our parks internationally.

I feel it says two various things: primary, reveals the love that friends have for our experiences that we have now inside our parks and the great IP that we have now — as an organization have; however I additionally suppose it speaks to the belief that folks have, given the monitor report that we now have after months of working throughout the globe with very stringent tips. And we’re more than happy with our monitor report. And I feel individuals at the moment are, by means of ahead bookings and reservations, exhibiting some very encouraging indicators about their willingness to come back and spend time with us at a Disney park.


Our subsequent query will come from Ben Swinburne with Morgan Stanley. Please go forward.

Ben SwinburneMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon. Christine, I do know you are not going to be offering the accretion dilution evaluation going ahead, and I actually get lots of shifting items. However I am simply questioning for those who may inform us whether or not there are further prices that you simply count on to come back out of the enterprise.

I feel you guys had talked about over $2 billion of synergies. I am simply questioning if we have a look at ’21 versus ’20, if there’s nonetheless extra to go as you’re employed by means of the mixing, and so forth. After which most likely for Bob. Bob, I do know you are saving so much for December 10, however you introduced a fairly substantial reorganization of the corporate in a yr that is clearly already had lots of disruption significantly across the direct-to-consumer enterprise with Kevin leaving, and so forth.

I am simply questioning for those who may speak a bit bit extra about your motivation there, sort of the response you’ve got gotten out of your senior executives. Many have had their roles shift fairly considerably, together with giving up sort of P&L accountability. Simply questioning for those who may speak about your confidence that you’ll get what you need out of this from an organization perspective and you can handle the danger of separating content material manufacturing selections from monetization selections as a result of it is a fairly substantial change. Thanks.

Christine McCarthySenior Govt Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

OK. Ben, it is Christine. Let me take your first query, which was on the price financial savings that we achieved from the mixing of 21CF. And we did meet — really, we exceeded that $2 billion quantity.

And so we really feel actually good in regards to the momentum we have now on the effectivity facet. And we’re additionally going to take the chance to proceed searching for operational efficiencies. The one factor we have discovered on this COVID setting is there are methods of being extra environment friendly, and we’ll proceed to mine these. And it really has actually helped us not solely in segments like our parks enterprise which might be immediately impacted however all through the whole firm.

So we’ll proceed to drive towards higher efficiencies. And with the — you requested about how a lot will we incur within the restructuring expenses associated to Fox. Total, Fox restructuring expenses had been $1.7 billion. And $1.2 billion of that was incurred in fiscal ’19.

So $500 million was completed this yr. And on this quarter, the place we had about a bit below $400 million of restructuring expenses, a portion of that was additionally Fox-related. It comes out to about a bit over — rather less than 30%. So the stability was associated to our cuts at — reductions in pressure at parks.

Ben SwinburneMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Acquired it.

Bob ChapekChief Govt Officer

And when it comes to the query on the reorganization, I’d recommend that possibly given the whole lot that is occurring on the planet, that is the proper time for us to do such a reorganization. And I am 100% assured that that is going to play out precisely as we had supposed. It is going extraordinarily effectively. And regardless of the disruption in everybody’s roles, I feel we have now 100% buy-in.

I feel we have now 100% buy-in as a result of we have now readability on accountability, which everybody actually likes, and we separate out roles to what individuals are inclined to do greatest. Content material does what they do greatest and the identical with distribution. So distribution, who manages the P&L, will set the parameters for our annual and long-term finances framework that is been agreed to on the slate with the content material creators. After which the content material creators then inexperienced gentle the person tasks after which shepherd growth and manufacturing.

So basically, distribution is now in a position to optimize the commercialization with out possibly an excessive amount of pointless regard for legacy distribution platforms. However on the identical time, our creatives, who, as you recognize, are one of the best on the planet, are actually free to do what they do and that is simply make one of the best content material and storytelling attainable. Loads of collaboration between the 2 teams however finally some stage of independence when it comes to every being what they are often and doing their jobs greatest.


Our subsequent query will come from Jessica Reif Ehrlich with Financial institution of America Securities. Please go forward.

Jessica Reif EhrlichFinancial institution of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Lowell, thanks. I’ve two questions as effectively. May you touch upon the change of administration at Star? Does that have an effect on your technique in India or outdoors with the rollout of the Star-branded service? After which secondly, sorry to be damaging, however the sports activities viewing decline, I imply there’s simply a lot occurring, and I’m wondering for those who may give us your ideas. Like there have been no followers within the stadium.

So it modifications the viewing expertise. The calendar has modified. There’s lots of sports activities in a brief time period. Do you’ve any issues about how it will impression shopper habits post-COVID? I would love your ideas on sort of the longer-term outlook for sports activities.

Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

OK. Jessica, thanks. I’m going to show each of these questions over to Bob.

Bob ChapekChief Govt Officer

OK. I’ll take the final one first. By way of sports activities rankings, sports activities rankings, we really feel that in context of the whole lot that is occurring, are literally holding up fairly effectively. However we’d watch out not to attract any conclusions in regards to the final well being of sports activities, form of the long-term impression that you simply recommended throughout this pandemic.

We actually suppose that we’re form of apples and oranges right here. I feel one of the best comp we most likely have is the NFL, which has been comparatively flat. Our Monday evening soccer viewership has been down 4%, comparatively modest regardless of all of the headwinds. I imply we have got the danger of seasons not ending.

To your level, we do not have followers within the stands. We now have the danger of video games individually each week being canceled. We now have election information as competitors. And we actually cannot have our followers doing what they love to do one of the best, which is watch in a communal setting.

They stunning a lot are watching by themselves. Regardless of all these headwinds, the truth that our Monday evening soccer enterprise is comparatively flat when it comes to viewership is admittedly — I feel actually encouraging. And for those who alter, if you’ll, viewership during the last couple of months for the quantity of accessible content material, you see that they sort of slide collectively. So we really have no issues in regards to the long-term well being of sports activities.

Clearly, we have got some headwinds because it pertains to short-term challenges and hurdles, however we expect that every one in all, in context, the well being of sports activities is fairly respectable given the whole lot that is occurring. By way of India, clearly, we have now an govt there, Uday Shankar, who we love, and we want him effectively. He gave us some indication a number of months in the past that he was considering of shifting on. We have a extremely deep bench there.

And we really feel that we have now all types of alternatives and lots of success to date with Disney+. And we have now no purpose to consider that that success will not proceed and even speed up going ahead.

Jessica Reif EhrlichFinancial institution of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst



Our subsequent query will come from Doug Mitchelson with Credit score Suisse. Please go forward.

Doug MitchelsonCredit score Suisse — Analyst

Thanks a lot. Lowell, I received two fast ones after which a most important query. The short ones are the maths on India. I feel if I’ve it proper, based mostly on Christine’s remark round $5.30, you are round 11 million subs, which might be about 2.5 million added within the quarter.

I simply wished to ensure that was within the ballpark. And I used to be searching for an replace on the cruise ships that had been on order. However the primary query is, having reupped some Disney+ distribution offers, what modifications are you seeing now? Now that you’re out of the unsure launch part and the worth on either side is healthier outlined for you and for the distributor, does the economics of these offers change? Or ought to we take into consideration the price of that advertising and marketing channel as locked in? And I additionally ask as a result of as you add an increasing number of unique content material to your streaming providers, I’d suppose the profit begins to shift in favor of the distributors as you add an increasing number of worth to these providers. So that will be useful.


Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

OK. So I am going to let Christine form of shortly deal with your India query, after which I am going to flip over the cruise and the Disney+ inquiries to Bob.

Christine McCarthySenior Govt Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

OK. Doug, we’re not — the feedback that I gave on the Hotstar Disney+ India subs, we simply do not touch upon these economics. So sadly, we will not offer you any extra element on that.

Bob ChapekChief Govt Officer

And when it comes to cruise ships, as you recognize, we simply received new tips from the CDC which might be fairly thorough, for instance. They usually actually entail some actually excessive hurdles when it comes to not solely testing by — the potential friends that we host on the ships but in addition a course of that has to occur with the intention to certify our first sailings. These will essentially lead to delays past what we had hoped when it comes to getting our ships again in service and making magic for our friends. I assume one of the best information out of all of it’s that we now do see some gentle on the finish of the tunnel.

I feel we have now a possibility to create form of a Disney bubble, in order for you — for those who would, on every considered one of our cruise ships. And demand could be very, very robust for our cruise ships. We’re seeing extraordinarily robust demand within the again half of fiscal-year ’21 and all of ’22 when it comes to bookings. That stated, that then creates the demand for the brand new ships that you simply requested about.

And proper now, we’re anticipating delivering our first new ship, the Want, in summer time of ’22. After which we have now our subsequent two ships in ’24 and ’25. And so after a slight delay of roughly six months on these ships, we expect that we’re going to have the ability to deliver them on to service. We hope and count on that the world will again to regular by then and anticipate having a advantageous time attempting to replenish the demand of these ships.

And we expect there’s going to be a lot pent-up demand that we do not count on to have a lot points, given the love that our friends have for Disney Cruise Line. By way of the distribution offers and form of altering the panorama over time with these, we’re actually happy with our partnerships up to now. We attempt to restrict them. We do not do too many, however we use them to strategically pursue development of our subscriber base and decrease subscriber acquisition prices.

In order you recognize, we have now one or two of those in every market. That is about it, but it surely actually does assist us form of present a base throughout our development part. And we have got full flexibility over time to both ramp these up or ramp these down as we see match.

Doug MitchelsonCredit score Suisse — Analyst

Nice. Thanks.


Our subsequent query will come from Jason Bazinet with Citi. Please go forward.

Jason BazinetCiti — Analyst

Only a query for Mr. Chapek. Can I am going again to the reorg that you simply introduced? The extra content material it appears that evidently you placed on the DTC facet, the decrease your earnings will likely be however the higher the sub development will likely be and the upper the inventory value will likely be. And in order these selections are being made right now and subsequent yr and the yr after, are there guardrails in place that form of imply this will likely be a gradual transition? Or is it actually no matter the suitable enterprise choice is the suitable enterprise choice, and you may do it even when it means possibly totally different near-term financials when it comes to profitability than The Avenue is anticipating? Thanks.

Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

OK. Thanks, Jason.

Bob ChapekChief Govt Officer

Yeah. I feel the guardrails are good frequent sense because it pertains to managing money. With our parks enterprise form of being — having an anchor on it, if you’ll, that we will not correctly function our parks enterprise like we would prefer to, we have now to be a bit bit extra cautious right now than we’d must be sooner or later. However I am simply going to recommend that after we speak to everyone on December 10, I feel you are going to see that we will put lots of wind within the sails of our Disney+ enterprise and closely put money into it.

And so the guardrails are simply the one ones that will be the constraints that we face right now when it comes to money. Aside from that, the whole lot is admittedly full pace ahead. And naturally, we have got our linear networks that we’re managing. We have made some reductions simply this final week at ESPN as we handle the transition from linear to extra of a digital expertise and a direct-to-consumer expertise.

And in order we toggle that stability between form of the legacy, previous media companies to the brand new media companies, we’ll do it aggressively, however we’ll watch it from a money standpoint within the meantime.


Our subsequent query will come from John Hodulik with UBS. Please go forward.

John HodulikUBS — Analyst

OK. Thanks. Possibly only a fast — couple of few follow-up to Jason’s questions. Bob, when it comes to the money, you bought $18 billion on the books.

I assume can we count on a big — such as you stated, a big ramp within the content material spend? And may we assume, on account of that that the progress you guys have made when it comes to D2C losses doesn’t suggest that these losses have peaked at this level? After which are you able to speak a bit bit about content material spend because it pertains to leisure program going into Disney+ and Hulu and Star and ESPN+. ESPN+ clearly has been a — there’s some good development there getting as much as 10 million subs. Do you count on to shift extra of your portfolio from — or simulcasted from linear to the D2C platform? Or ought to we count on some investments in new rights? Thanks.

Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

OK. John, thanks for the questions. I’ll let Christine take the primary query round money, after which, Bob, speak a bit bit extra about programming funding.

John HodulikUBS — Analyst


Christine McCarthySenior Govt Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

John, it is Christine. You are proper that our money and money equivalents are a really wholesome $18 billion. That is down from $23 billion within the prior quarter. Simply to place some context across the discount, we lowered our business paper balances by nearly $5 billion.

And we additionally had some bond maturities, over $1 billion, that we took care of. However we’re nonetheless producing working money, and we’re investing in our content material now. We’re spending — lots of our productions are again up and operating. So we will handle this.

However as we ramp up much more further new productions, we will likely be spending extra cash on that. However we’ll observe this up. And when the height of funding is anticipated, we’ll replace you with that data on December 10.

Bob ChapekChief Govt Officer

And my solutions are going to be comparatively the identical when it comes to the programming between our linear and our DTC enterprise. Initially, Christine will speak about form of the steerage on the investor convention, particularly when it comes to — we have now our losses peaked, which was your direct query. I need to say although, moreover, we will likely be investing closely. We’ll speak once more about — extra about this on the investor convention, however we’re going to proceed to ramp up our funding in DTC.

And we will likely be closely tilting the size from linear networks over to our DTC enterprise as we see that, as we stated in our opening feedback, our major catalyst for development as an organization. So once more, we will speak much more about this on December 10, however you will notice a closely — a heavy tilt.


Thanks. And our closing query right now will come from Michael Morris with Guggenheim. Please go forward.

Michael MorrisGuggenheim Securities — Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon. Two from me. First, are you able to speak in regards to the advert income per Hulu subscriber decline within the quarter that you simply referenced within the launch? Simply given the power that we’re seeing within the form of linked TV market, I used to be sort of stunned to see that.

So I am curious, your tackle how that enterprise goes and the way we should always take into consideration that. My second query is mostly a follow-up to one of many early ones round sports activities and sports activities content material. And I am curious how you concentrate on increasing sports activities content material availability to shoppers that do not have a pay TV bundle. I feel at this level, there’s 30 million or 35 million households within the U.S.

Bob, you simply referenced a few of the stability in rankings. So possibly that will suggest that individuals who need sports activities nonetheless take pay TV, and so it is not a problem. However I am curious if the leagues have any growing urgency to form of attain these cord-cutters or cord-nevers and possibly what a few of the issues are for you, whether or not it is monetary impression or whether or not it is rights limitations or issues like that? Thanks.

Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

OK, OK. Mike, so I’ll let Bob take the sports activities query, after which we’ll go to Christine on the Hulu query.

Bob ChapekChief Govt Officer

OK. By way of the — form of the cord-cutters and options for the cord-cutters, I will not converse to what the leagues’ ideas are. I am going to go away that as much as them. However I’ll inform you that we have got a product that we’re actually enthusiastic about and has skilled some fast development, and that is Hulu + Stay TV.

And it actually offers the utility that customers would possibly usually discover from the cable or satellite tv for pc subscriber and have the ability to get it over-the-top on to their houses. And I feel it will more and more act as an answer to these households which have walked away from their conventional, extra conventional cable sort of subscriptions and doubtlessly slide it over to Hulu + Stay TV. And that is one of many the reason why we’re actually bullish about that enterprise. I am a private huge fan of it.

I take advantage of it. And it is actually slick. It’s totally elegant, and it truly is a giant answer supplier. It is actually the whole answer, I feel.

So we’re enthusiastic about that when it comes to fixing a shopper want for these shoppers, as you talked about, which have all walked away from that individual approach of distributing and receiving content material.

Christine McCarthySenior Govt Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

Mike, and on Hulu, total, I’d say that we’re seeing very, very robust demand for promoting on Hulu within the addressable market. However the year-over-year comparisons had been negatively impacted on a per-sub foundation by what we’re seeing within the promoting market total in Q3 and This autumn. However we will speak extra about Hulu promoting in additional element on the Investor Day. So simply maintain on till December 10, and hopefully, we are able to reply all of your questions then.

Michael MorrisGuggenheim Securities — Analyst

Nice. Thanks.

Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

OK, Mike. Thanks, and thanks once more, everybody, for becoming a member of us right now. As Bob and Christine have talked about, we’re trying ahead to sharing much more with you at our December 10 Investor Day, and we stay up for seeing lots of you then. Be aware {that a} reconciliation of non-GAAP measures that had been referred to on this name to equal GAAP measures may be discovered on our Investor Relations web site.

Let me additionally remind you that sure statements on this name, together with monetary estimates or statements about our plans, expectations, beliefs or enterprise prospects might represent forward-looking statements below the securities legal guidelines. We make these statements on the idea of our views and assumptions relating to future occasions and enterprise efficiency on the time we make them, and we don’t undertake any obligation to replace these statements. Ahead-looking statements are topic to quite a few dangers and uncertainties, and precise outcomes might differ materially from the outcomes expressed or implied in gentle of quite a lot of components, together with components contained in our annual report on Kind 10-Ok, quarterly stories on Kind 10-Q and in our different filings with the Securities and Trade Fee. This concludes right now’s name.

Have an amazing remainder of the day, everybody.


[Operator signoff]

Period: 57 minutes

Name members:

Lowell SingerSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

Bob ChapekChief Govt Officer

Christine McCarthySenior Govt Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

Michael NathansonMoffettNathanson — Analyst

Alexia QuadraniJ.P. Morgan — Analyst

Ben SwinburneMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Jessica Reif EhrlichFinancial institution of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Doug MitchelsonCredit score Suisse — Analyst

Jason BazinetCiti — Analyst

John HodulikUBS — Analyst

Michael MorrisGuggenheim Securities — Analyst

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