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Bangkok Aug 26, 2020 (Thomson StreetEvents) — Edited Transcript of Minor Worldwide PCL earnings convention name or presentation Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 10:59:00am GMT

Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [1]

Good morning, everybody. Thanks for attending analyst presentation at the moment. At the moment, the agenda is to recap our second quarter outcomes we will go into element by enterprise models as properly, Minor Motels, Minor Meals, Minor Life-style in addition to company data. And on the very finish, we are going to inform you about our response methods to take care of the pandemic state of affairs, each instant and long-term plans.

Let’s begin with the quarter outcomes overview. Earlier than we go into that, I simply need to reiterate our opening plan and the recap of the impression of the COVID state of affairs. We begin to really feel the impression of the COVID on the very starting of the 12 months. As you are properly conscious, we report losses within the first quarter. The lockdown began in March. We began to shut a few of our inns, a few of our eating places and a few of our Life-style shops in March, however the full lockdown came about in April and Might. The worst month for us when it comes to the closure of our Motels and Meals and Life-style shops occurred in April.

We closed as many as 80% to 90% of our inns portfolio in April, and we closed about 34% to about 40% of our meals shops in April with the rest, 60-something p.c open only for takeaway, take supply.

For Minor Life-style, greater than 90% are closed in April as properly. However on the tail finish of Might, we begin to seize the loosening of the lockdown throughout the globe. So we begin to reopen our companies with our resort steadily open in addition to our meals shops steadily open on the again of our consideration, whether or not the opening will give us money optimistic or scale back losses that we will make or not. Up till at the moment, June and July, we see enchancment in enterprise resumption and restoration. At this level, within the mid of August, greater than 76% of our resort portfolio are already open and operational. For our meals, out of two,000-ish shops that we now have, 95% of that already opened and operational in August.

For Life-style, nearly all of our shops are already open at this level. In order that’s simply to recap the impression of COVID on the closure and the opening of our shops. We simply need to recap their second quarter outcomes. In case you checked out our core income, on a pre-TFRS 16 foundation, our core income fell by about 79% year-on-year on the again of the quickly closure of our inns and shops because of the lockdown. However in case you take a look at our revenue, a backside line plunge from core revenue of THB 2.1 billion within the second quarter of 2019 to internet losses of THB 6.9 billion on a pre-TFRS 16 foundation within the second quarter. And that is such a big losses, it was actually on the again of the total lockdown that occurred in April and Might. And we now have to say that on a month-to-month — on a month-on-month development, we see the negativity or losses has slender over time all through the second quarter, April, Might, June to see the development within the backside line efficiency.

By way of worldwide presence, we nonetheless have operated in 63 international locations within the first half of this 12 months, contribution from the nationwide market account was 62% (inaudible) coming from Thailand. So from right here, we will every enterprise unit’s efficiency, beginning off with Minor Motels.

Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [2]

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Okay. Beginning off with Minor Resort. Monetary highlights for the efficiency of every enterprise unit, let’s begin off with Minor Motels. For Minor Motels, we really noticed a income decline of about 91%. And that is, in fact, primarily due to the short-term closure of the inns just about throughout the geographies, particularly in April and Might of 2020.

So in case you take a look at by enterprise models, whether or not it is our personal and leased administration letting rights, administration managed inns or mixed-use companies, all the companies have really seen income decline within the second quarter of this 12 months. Once more, additionally by geography, whether or not it is Thailand, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Maldives, within the Center East or the Americas, we have really seen income decline just about throughout all of the geographies as properly. One factor to notice is that in Australia and New Zealand, the decline is at a decrease fee than different geographies. And that is as a result of inns in Australia have been — have remained operational all through the April and Might COVID-19 pandemic as properly.

So with such a decline in income, we have really applied loads of value discount initiatives, which, by the — within the second quarter of the 12 months, we have been in a position to save by nearly 60% of the fee through the quarter. So with — however with the income shortfall, which means our EBITDA turned to unfavorable of about THB 5 billion and internet earnings down by about THB 6 billion as properly.

By way of contribution, Thailand contributes 13% of income within the first half of this 12 months, which is just about in keeping with 2019, and that is primarily as a result of just about throughout the geographies — we have seen short-term shut down of inns throughout the geography. So when it comes to proportion, it is nonetheless fairly constant, which ought to be the most important a part of the enterprise. So nonetheless about over 50% is when it comes to variety of (inaudible) for all all the portfolio, so together with inns which are quickly closed as properly.

And when it comes to income contribution, it is nonetheless over 50% from leased enterprise mannequin and in — owned and leased, sorry. And when it comes to income contribution, once more, over 50% is from Europe, though the vast majority of the inns have been closed as properly.

Going into slightly bit extra on the statistics, when it comes to variety of rooms, we have really elevated variety of rooms by about 2% year-on-year, however once more, that is all the portfolio. So it additionally consists of the inns which have been quickly closed as properly.

By way of RevPAR for the second quarter, system-wide RevPAR has been down by 95%. Once more, that is primarily from the occupancy that we solely had about 6% occupancy within the second quarter of the 12 months. In case you take a look at the month-to-month development, you possibly can see that for all the portfolio, we began to see enchancment since June. From RevPAR down by about 98% to about — down by about 89%. And going to July, it is improved even additional to about — down by about 72%. In order that’s primarily because the inns began to reopen since finish of Might steadily.

For opened inns, when it comes to statistics, slightly bit — you see slightly bit higher. By way of RevPAR, the magnitude of the RevPAR that is down, it is about 65% in July. And with that, when it comes to occupancy, we have about 34% occupancy in July for the opened inns solely throughout the portfolio.

So the development is getting higher, is bettering.

Once more, I feel throughout the portfolio, the development shall be just about the identical, comparable. So in Thailand, we’re seeing RevPAR decline by nearly 100% within the second quarter because the inns are just about closed. We began to reopen the inns selectively in July. In order that’s once we began to see the development going again up. And primarily in Thailand, as soon as the inns are — opens, it is catered primarily to home vacationers. And we’re seeing good traction in locations like Hua Hin and Pattaya and likewise in Phuket as properly, as we serve increasingly more home vacationers.

For Maldives, the inns proceed to be closed. So we have closed the resort since about April of this 12 months, and it’ll stay closed all through the third quarter as properly. That is the plan for now, and we reopen within the fourth quarter in time for the excessive season.

For inns in Europe and the Americas, once more, identical — just about the identical story. So RevPAR is down by about 95%. Just about all of the inns have been quickly closed down in April and Might. We began to reopen. And now as of at the moment, about — over 70% of the inns are already opened. And when it comes to RevPAR development, we’re seeing higher traction going into June and July as properly.

Asset-light, once more, just about the identical administration letting rights. As I discussed earlier, in Australia, the inns have remained open all through the pandemic time. So we’re seeing much less magnitude when it comes to unfavorable RevPAR. So RevPAR in Aussie greenback time period is down by about 65%, 66%. And the development is getting higher and higher every month as you see that by July, RevPAR is already down — is just down by about 35%. Administration inns, once more, just about the identical development. Worst month in April, and seeing enchancment going into June and July.

That is the resort enlargement pipeline. I feel it is not a lot totally different from what we have proven earlier. So just about, we nonetheless have 23 inns for the owned and leased portfolio to be opened over the following 2 or Three years. For administration contracts, we now have 50 inns over the following Three to four years to be opened as properly.

For the mixed-use enterprise, in case you take a look at income, it is declined by about 79% within the second quarter of this 12 months in comparison with final 12 months. In order that’s primarily as a result of we did not have any residential gross sales and we additionally noticed declining gross sales actions of Anantara Trip Membership as properly due to the outbreak. So which means with the outbreak, there isn’t any advertising in direction of — there isn’t any conversion of the gross sales. So we have seen a decline within the Anantara Trip Membership gross sales within the second quarter as properly.

Going into — slightly bit into the meals. Meals is slightly bit higher as a result of even within the — throughout April and Might, though we had the lockdown in most of the international locations, however at the very least the supply enterprise continues to be operational. We solely needed to shut down the eating enterprise throughout April and Might. So in case you take a look at when it comes to same-store gross sales, we have really seen gradual enchancment. April was the toughest month, in fact, that is due to the lockdown within the majority of the international locations that we function, together with Thailand and Australia. However going into Might, June and July, as nation began to reopen, we began to see a greater performing development.

By way of income, we noticed income down by about 32%. Once more, that is primarily due to the decline — the shutdown of the dine-in enterprise. All of the supply enterprise helped with the gross sales, nevertheless it wasn’t sufficient to cowl all of the losses from that — the gross sales shortfall from the dine-in enterprise.

We additionally had some value reductions on the meals facet as properly. So due to that, when it comes to EBITDA, we nonetheless proceed to report worthwhile — optimistic EBITDA within the second quarter even pre-TFRS 16. However in fact, with the depreciation and curiosity, internet revenue was on a loss.

By way of contribution, Thailand contributed 74% within the first half. That is primarily as a result of China and Australia have been a bit more durable hit through the first and second quarter. So Thailand was the one which — the meals enterprise that is been fairly resilient over the previous 6 months.

Going into Minor Meals portfolio, 50% of the enterprise is owned, about 50% is franchised. However when it comes to income contribution, 95% owned and 5% is franchised.

By way of geography, Thailand continues to be the most important contributor for the Minor Meals enterprise within the first half of the 12 months. That is the operational stats by hub. In order you possibly can see, for Thailand, we began to see higher development when it comes to complete system gross sales since like round June and July, as soon as we began to reopen the operation since about finish of Might.

By way of same-store gross sales, April was really a really particular month for us as a result of that was once we ran the purchase one, get one free marketing campaign over into April as properly. Often, that is March for a pizza firm. So due to the — that marketing campaign, we really noticed optimistic same-store gross sales progress. That was what drove the optimistic same-store gross sales throughout April.

For China, for the reason that shut down in February, we continued to see — proceed enchancment, aside from the month of June, once they had the second wave of the COVID in Beijing and the federal government has been precautioned in closing down the cities. However after that, going into July, we began to see the — each the same-store and complete system gross sales going again up. And with that, we’re really anticipating it to return to sort of at a standard stage, pre-COVID stage by August.

And in Australia, once more, identical factor, April was once they closed down. Might was — in direction of the tip of Might was once they began to reopen. So we’re beginning to see good traction going into June and July as properly for Australia.

In a short time for Minor Life-style. Once more, identical development when it comes to complete system gross sales and same-store gross sales, April was the worst month after which gradual enchancment going into June and July.

For Minor Life-style, what we’re attempting to do is focusing slightly bit extra on the net enterprise. So that is what we’re doing on the retail buying and selling facet. On the contract manufacturing facet, as a result of we have been promoting — producing and promoting sanitizers and cleansing merchandise, and the demand has been fairly sturdy over the previous 6 months. We’re seeing good gross sales momentum from that.

By way of monetary efficiency, once more, income is down 49%. We made some losses, each when it comes to EBITDA and at internet revenue stage as properly. Company data. I feel this slide is just about the identical as what we have offered earlier. So we now have delayed and suspended among the CapEx, in all probability about THB 5 billion to THB 7 billion going into the — over the following 2 years. In order that’s to protect our money circulate in addition to our liquidity.

By way of leverage ratio, we’re at about 1.6x within the second quarter. So we now have the perpetual bonds coming in as a part of the fairness to assist offset the web loss coming within the first half of the 12 months. In order that’s helped preserve our DE stage. However needless to say we have already bought approval from our collectors to waive the testing of the covenant up till the tip of this 12 months. So that provides us one other stage of cushion for that. And in addition going to 3rd quarter, we even have the fitting providing, which shall be coming within the third quarter. In order that will even strengthen our fairness base additional in going to the third quarter as properly. And we have already issued the warrant, which we are going to get the capital of about THB 5 billion coming in over the following Three years.

So I hand it again to Khun Large for — on the response to COVID-19.

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Brian James Delaney, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – CFO [3]

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Sure. As we now have all alongside up to date you on our technique and our plan to take care of this COVID pandemic impression, our strategic street map stay unchanged. We now have the Section 1, which take care of instant priorities when the lockdown occurred, and Section 2, the try and stop demand restoration, which we’re doing in the mean time. And Section Three enterprise past COVID, recognizing client development or habits that may change after COVID after which how we will re-strategize or change our enterprise mannequin.

At this level, we’re in the midst of Section 2, and the efforts stay unchanged that I already defined to you throughout our street present earlier.

Our efforts proceed to be recovering income, additionally overview our operations. We expect our group, and we proceed to undertake digital options to attach extra with customers and produce extra income in the long run.

Simply to provide you some recap on the reopening progress, like I discussed to you on the very starting. Motels now greater than 75% of our portfolio are open in the mean time. As for our NH portfolio, greater than 75% of their inns are already open as properly.

For Minor Meals, greater than 90% of our shops are open. Those who stay shut are all concentrated within the vacationer vacation spot. So we simply have to attend till the border opening happen so we are able to rethink the opening of the rest — the remaining of our meals outlet that has — which are closed, that 5% which are closed. For Life-style, nearly all of our Life-style shops already open.

Proper now, we now have to just about give attention to home tourism for inns, for the reason that border continues to be shut. We’re nonetheless attempting to push and drive the journey bubble program in dialogue with the federal government to see if that may occur quickly inside this third quarter, within the fourth quarter of this 12 months. That can herald not solely the home tourism, however among the selective regional tourism to our a part of the — this a part of the world, particularly for Thailand and different Asian international locations that we now have in our portfolio.

For Europe NH portfolio, just about they’ve loads of home calls for. NH can take benefit on the — its sturdy positioning and good and powerful location in every of the European international locations for the stabilization and restoration part that may come initially from home clients.

In Germany, 70% of the enterprise comes from home demand, 60% in Spain, 50% in Benelux, and Italy and likewise the B2C section, representing 60% of NH revenues, we get better sooner than the B2B enterprise. In order that — we nonetheless attempt to proceed to watch the state of affairs. We nonetheless stay fluid. And we might hope that this demand is enough to uplift our efficiency within the the rest of the 12 months. Nevertheless, we are going to proceed to guard our profitability by the use of decreasing prices and decrease our money outflow with restricted income restoration at this level whereas we wait till the lockdown of border controls are opening up.

We proceed to give you cost-cutting initiatives, one thing that we have accomplished earlier than, we streamlined our manpower. We decreased our payroll prices by the use of — handle our part-time, full-time clients in a more practical method in addition to doing a little short-term redundancy and even everlasting redundancy. And in addition, we nonetheless proceed to barter with our landlord to scale back our hire bills in addition to our suppliers to get the higher phrases of cost and reductions. And we reduce down all of our pointless bills as a lot as potential. So the fee saving for the entire 12 months, we count on it to be — to return down by 25% to 30% of final 12 months or nearly 30% of the finances that we initially deliberate for this 12 months.

And in addition, the CapEx, we now have reduce down CapEx considerably this 12 months by nearly half. CapEx cancellation this 12 months hover round THB 7 billion to THB 10 billion and in addition to dividend cancellation that we already defined to you earlier in our earlier presentation.

For our value saving to be — to provide you slightly bit extra element. Payroll has come down by 25% to 30% in addition to suppliers prices, different prices and rental prices additionally come down by greater than 20% to 25%. That is additionally bode properly within the second quarter of this 12 months. In case you take a look at our second quarter outcomes, our value discount is as a lot as 50% year-on-year within the second quarter of 2020.

With reference to money burn, like I instructed you earlier in earlier assembly that we now have the definition of money burn fairly differ from 1 to a different.

So we simply need to make it clear. We use free money circulate, which comprise working money circulate, internet CapEx and reimbursement of lease liabilities as our indicator of money burn. In case you take a look at our free money circulate within the first quarter of this 12 months was unfavorable THB 6.four billion. Within the second quarter of this 12 months, it is ballooned to about THB 8.7 billion — unfavorable THB 8.7 billion with the majority coming in for the month of April and Might, when the lockdown occurred. However in June, we begin to see a free money circulate negativity narrowed to THB 2.1 billion. In case you take a look at April, April was unfavorable THB Three billion, Might was unfavorable THB 3.6 billion and the negativity come all the way down to THB 2.1 billion in June.

And in case you look extra intently to working money circulate, working money circulate was the more severe in Might, when the total lockdown occurred. So we imagine that the worst is behind us and it is over. That working money circulate improved considerably in June. We solely noticed unfavorable working money circulate of THB 0.5 billion when mixed with decreased CapEx and lease — reimbursement of lease liabilities, altogether, free money circulate was unfavorable THB 2.1 billion, which is healthier than April and Might. And we hope to see a significantly better quantity in July onwards within the the rest of the 12 months with the reopening actions begin to acquire extra momentum going ahead as properly.

This slide is simply to provide the breakeven factors that we’re attempting to scale back to the extent that we are able to see the breakeven sooner. It is our try and speed up the breakeven time line for this 12 months. So with drastic cost-cutting program that we applied, which I instructed you earlier within the earlier slide, on a firm-wide foundation, we managed to scale back breakeven factors for inns. We use occupancy as a parameter to point the money breakeven that we want to see. Earlier than COVID, the breakeven for resort was hoving round 50% to 60%. We managed to scale back all the way down to about 30% to 40%.

For Minor Meals, we use the pre-COVID gross sales stage because the parameter to measure breakeven. To — earlier than we do our cost-cutting initiatives, we now have to realize about 82% of pre-COVID gross sales determine to see our money breakeven to — or pre-TFRS EBITDA breakeven for meals. However we now have managed to chop prices, convey down this breakeven to about 69% of pre-COVID gross sales. In order quickly as we get to 69% of our pre-COVID gross sales stage, we are going to see our money breakeven for Minor Meals.

Simply to provide you some coloration on what occurred this 12 months to this point. In case you take a look at the — like I mentioned, the breakeven level for resort, we managed to convey it down from 50%, 60% to about 30% to 40%. For the variety of June and July, our breakeven (technical problem) occupancy for Minor Motels in June was round 16%, 17%.

Within the month of July, our occupancy hovering round early 30s. So we’re not there but to see breakeven level for Minor Motels. However hopefully, in August or the rest of third quarter, we hope to drive occupancy to get to the extent that we — that might contact the decreased breakeven level that we projected.

For Thailand, we — in July, we now have managed to succeed in or surpass our forecast. I’ve to elucidate to you that for Minor Resort as a complete, in July, the hole between the precise occupancy and the breakeven occupancies just about come from NH or European and LatAm portfolio.

In case you take a look at Europe and America’s portfolio, in June, we count on — we forecast occupancy of round 16%. We achieved about 14%, 15%, which is in line. However in July, we forecast about 40 — slightly bit greater than 40%, however we achieved solely early 30%. So the hole is correct there, however we now hope to select it up within the the rest of third quarter and likewise within the fourth quarter of this 12 months. So let’s simply hope that we get there to see breakeven — money breakeven for Minor Motels within the the rest of the 12 months.

For Minor Meals, it is — the precise quantity monitoring properly or higher than our expectation. In case you take a look at the chart under when it comes to complete system gross sales, the dotted blue line is the breakeven stage that we now have decreased down. If we get — obtain that breakeven of THB 2.6 billion sale — month-to-month gross sales stage, we’ll get to our money breakeven. And we now have already achieved that within the month of June. We now have already get to our breakeven stage for Minor Meals within the month of June, with the — particularly with the reopening that we opened greater than 90% of our meals shops, the dine-in, are available in stronger than we anticipated. Supply nonetheless preserve a great momentum. That is why we already see the breakeven on the pre-TFRS EBITDA stage for Minor Meals already within the month of June. And within the month of July, it is even larger. And we’re in all probability going to see some revenue within the fourth quarter of the 12 months.

For supply, supply has gained sturdy progress through the lockdown interval as a result of the dine-in has been closed down. We managed to see deliveries gross sales greater than nearly 200% improve within the month of April and within the month of Might, greater than 100% improve. Within the month of June and July, we nonetheless see excessive double-digit progress determine for supply, though dine-in are available in sooner than we anticipated. In order that’s why you see the expansion of supply softened slightly bit in June and July as a result of dine-in got here in stronger than we anticipated. Besides supply progress within the month of June and July, like I mentioned, within the month of June, it is over 80%, within the month of July continues to be over 50%. We proceed to see — we proceed to drive each dine-in and supply within the the rest of the 12 months.

Subsequent slide, simply to recap on the liquidity and debt administration, like Jutatip simply talked about earlier, we managed to get covenant waiver from our bondholders and from our collectors. So we do not have to check our debt covenant till the tip of first quarter of subsequent 12 months. In order that give us one other layer of flexibility to handle our liquidity and our leverage ratio. And when it comes to credit standing, we now have — our score has been reaffirmed by TRIS at A-rating. In order that’s some excellent news that we had though throughout — within the mid of the COVID, we managed to get our score on the identical stage, though the outlook is unfavorable, however that unfavorable outlook is just about an indication on the again of the atmosphere and COVID state of affairs usually.

By way of debt maturing, we managed to safe services from our collectors. So we now have sufficient liquidity to satisfy our debt obligation and likewise to arrange for any uncertainty or evolution of the pandemic state of affairs sooner or later.

Money readily available in the mean time sit at THB 36 billion, with working cap facility of one other THB 26 billion. Altogether, that give us THB 60 billion to THB 70 billion liquidity, which we imagine that sufficient to cushion any uncertainty that may occur sooner or later.

To recap on the capital elevating train that we now have accomplished. We now have already accomplished our complete capital elevating plan that we introduced 2 months in the past. We now have efficiently issued perpetual bonds, USD 300 million. We managed to finish our proper providing provides. Each perpetual bonds and proper providing have been overwhelmingly oversubscribed and efficiently accomplished and the warrants that additionally ready to be exercised within the subsequent Three years with the low train value of THB 21.6. We imagine that we’re positively going to get one other THB 5 billion within the subsequent Three years to strengthen our fairness base. In case you take a look at our professional forma debt-to-equity ratio with the fitting providing that we now have, debt-to-equity shall be — will hover round 1.45. And with the warrant proceeds, our debt-to-equity professional forma foundation will come all the way down to about 1.37. We’re nonetheless fairly near our inner coverage of 1.Three conservatively and properly under and properly inside our monetary covenant of 1.75.

In order that’s when it comes to our capital elevating train and likewise our liquidity place. Going ahead, we are going to proceed to take a look at how we will get better our income. We are going to attempt to persist with our security and hygiene requirements. For Minor Motels, other than the security hygiene requirements, we now have to discover a solution to do some industrial engagement with customers.

We launched — we uncover Anantara marketing campaign, come again to AVANI marketing campaign in addition to the Peace of Thoughts, Really feel Protected at NH to ensure that customers and clients will really feel extra assured and comfy staying with us.

So we — not solely that, we additionally spot — change in client habits development, elevated significance of cleanliness, securing certification like SHA certification from the Prime Tourism Authority of Thailand. That additionally helped elevated confidence of our customers and the recognizing development of well being consciousness of our customers. So we are able to leverage on our wellness and medical spa that we now have partnership with the specialists on the international stage, just like the Anantara and Verita that we are going to do that wellness at Anantara Siam and Anantara Riverside. And St Regis additionally partnered up with the la Prairie as properly.

In order that’s one thing that we are going to do, and we’ll hold doing for Minor Motels. However extra importantly, the strategic transfer that we’re attempting to give you is the reliability of our model. We now have to make our model on prime to be — to remain on prime of thoughts of our customers. Not solely the industrial engagement via PR and advertising marketing campaign, however like I mentioned, the securing of certification, well being certificates from worldwide firm that may assist improve confidence that additionally elevated model reliability as properly.

For Minor Meals, we are going to proceed to leverage on our personal supply platform. I feel one of many fundamental benefits that we now have over different participant out there that we now have our personal supply platform (technical problem) and drivers in our fleet. These driver has been skilled, they usually have high quality of their service that may assist convey in additional customers to make use of our supply platform. So we are going to proceed to leverage on that to extend supply gross sales momentum. And in addition to for Minor Meals, we now have accomplished loads of company group transformation when it comes to digital transformation in addition to our provide chain, innovation, product innovation when it comes to digital, not solely supply, however we additionally take a look at to see how we will strengthen our loyalty program that will even improve the income and profitability over the long-term as properly.

For Minor Life-style, we are going to proceed to give attention to not solely brick-and-mortar retailer, but additionally on-line channel. And we additionally need to leverage on the manufacturing of our hand sanitizers and different cleansing merchandise, that are in excessive demand from the patron at this level. And we are able to additionally scale back our value. If we now have to have a brand new protocol at our inns or at our restaurant with the brand new — with the sanitary protocol, we are able to leverage on Minor Life-style manufacturing of this cleansing product, our sanitizer to scale back our prices and defend our margin on that entrance.

In order that’s — I suppose that is the wrap for presentation throughout — for the second quarter outcomes and up to date developments that we now have through the quarter. So proper now, we will open for Q&A. Please ship us Q&A on-line and even converse up however one particular person at a time due to the — as a result of if — if greater than there shall be an echo.

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Questions and Solutions

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [1]

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[Operator Instruction]. So that is the primary query. Would second wave in Europe have an effect on European resort occupancy fee? And any threat, in fact, in down the inns once more?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [2]

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Nicely, it have an effect on our occupancy slightly bit. Like I mentioned — like I confirmed you earlier within the slide, once we forecast breakeven once we forecast occupancy to — within the breakeven slide. We count on July occupancy at round 40%-ish, however we achieved early 30%. A part of it’s as a result of the second wave or the virus that occurred right here and there in Europe through the month of June and July. However we hope that that is nonetheless minimal and controllable. So within the remaining third quarter or fourth quarter, we are going to attempt to decide it up.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [3]

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We now have a query from [Bipen]

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Unidentified Analyst, [4]

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So thanks very a lot for a really complete presentation, particularly on the response to COVID-19. I’ve a couple of questions. So the primary one is on the like given occupancy fee, proper? I imagine that that is based mostly on the belief that common fee is about 10% to 15% decrease than ordinary. Might I verify with you shortly what is the present fee that you may obtain now in July and August for Thailand and for NH Resort in Europe?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [5]

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Sure. Nicely, this breakeven evaluation, considering the 10% to 15% decline in ADR already. It is already baked in 10% to 15%. And the vary of occupants — breakeven occupancy, we bake in one other plus or minus 10% of ADR as properly. So altogether, it is going to be roughly about 20-ish p.c decline in ADR bake in to our breakeven evaluation. However precise ADR, as an example, within the month of July for complete Minor Resort portfolio, we noticed ADR decline by about 21% to 22%. So I feel it is nonetheless inside our ADR assumption at this level. And for NH, particularly, in July, they noticed the ADR decline by about 20% to 21% as properly. So nonetheless just about inside our assumption parameter. However we now have to maintain monitoring the state of affairs nonetheless, the evolution state of affairs continues to be ongoing. After which we are going to replace you as soon as we now have the quantity in the remainder of the third quarter.

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Unidentified Analyst, [6]

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I see. So I feel it is nonetheless achievable that you may hold your resort in operation all through the remaining of this 12 months, proper, based mostly on this occupancy forecast?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [7]

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Sure. We are going to proceed to think about whether or not to open or not open based mostly on money, money optimistic or whether or not it is sufficient to scale back loss. It is — if we open resort and assist us decrease losses, we’ll achieve this. So at this level, 75% of resort already open. And for NH particularly, we’d hope that we are going to get to about 80 to — 85% to 90%, perhaps by the tip of third quarter.

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Unidentified Analyst, [8]

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And my second query, which can be a bit on a long term horizon, proper? On condition that the resort business would possibly endure for an extended whereas from COVID-19, proper? We do not count on the worldwide journey to return again to pre-COVID-19 very quickly. In the long term, proper, will you take into account to be extra aggressive on the meals enterprise to make up for the misplaced income from the resort facet?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [9]

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We are going to even — even with out COVID, we are going to in all probability going to be very energetic when it comes to remodel our Minor Meals group to get extra income and revenue and stay within the main place out there that we function. In case you keep in mind earlier than COVID, we now have enterprise-wide transformation replace that we up to date to you and fundamental focus of that transformation — group transformation for Minor Worldwide is totally on Minor Meals. We now have accomplished so when it comes to product — new product innovation, digital transformation, the best way of labor, administration functionality. So every little thing has been accomplished even earlier than COVID, however COVID got here in as an accelerator and as a catalyst to hurry up that transformation. So we’d proceed to take action for Minor Meals when it comes to drive, dine-in as a result of — and supply, each in any respect channels, we’re attempting to grow to be primary. Dine, we are going to attempt to grow to be extra related to a brand new era of customers.

We now have accomplished model revitalization program for the important thing manufacturers that we now have over the previous few months, and it really works — it labored properly, displaying — the numbers displaying enchancment in gross sales in addition to, as I mentioned, supply additionally maintained sturdy momentum with client habits is altering through the lockdown, individuals are extra aware of the best way to use apps. So we’d leverage on supply platform or 1112Supply that we now have, larger and stronger than anyone else out there to seize that development.

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Unidentified Analyst, [10]

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I see. So after you’re accomplished together with your 5-year plan later this 12 months, we would see extra contribution from the meals enterprise over the following 5 years, proper, evaluating to the earlier 5-year plan?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [11]

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Nicely, contribution from meals like we now have to — the state of affairs nonetheless evolve, nonetheless stay fluent. So we’d see that at this level, with inns, nonetheless see worldwide border closing, meals will in all probability going to be the one who alleviate that hostile impression. So diversification technique is to work very well for us. However going ahead, we now have to attend and see whether or not — how quickly the inns get again on monitor on the federal government route and the border opening up and the vaccine and every little thing. So our 5-year plan nonetheless stay very — we’re nonetheless doing a really — how can I say fluid 5-year plan, let’s put this fashion.

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Unidentified Analyst, [12]

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Sure. And my final query — sure, sorry. Sure. And for my final query, the place if issues stay fairly dangerous, proper, on the resort facet, particularly, proper? Is it potential to ask additional debt covenant waiver for subsequent 12 months? I do know that this shall be in — by the tip of this 12 months. Is it potential to increase this to the entire of 2021?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [13]

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No, this covenant waiver lengthen till — we are going to get check once more on the finish of March subsequent 12 months. So we nonetheless have like nearly 9 months to go with out having to check. However once more, we now have accomplished a complete capital elevating methods, which give us loads of liquidity and money that we are able to nonetheless — with endure even the second wave or third wave that may are available in throughout this era. So — however debt covenant waiver, if we will do it once more subsequent 12 months, it is dependent upon the state of affairs. I can not reply this query proper now. However I imagine that the boldness that we now have seen so removed from traders, each fastened revenue fairness traders that we have seen through the perpetual bond train and RO, proper providing train, it is fairly overwhelming, and we’re grateful for that.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [14]

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Subsequent query is about money burn fee. Might you please share money burn fee in July and the outlook in August?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [15]

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Nicely, up so far, we’re nonetheless ready for the quantity. So we’ll share with you as quickly as we now have finalizing the quantity. However preliminary, it ought to be higher than the month of — than second quarter and first quarter as a result of the lockdown is over. So like I mentioned, we must always see a restoration in our money circulate or money burn fee, however the closing quantity hasn’t been finalized.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [16]

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(inaudible) has raised fingers within the chatbox.

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Unidentified Analyst, [17]

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Thanks for the element presentation. Two questions on my finish. After I see some different knowledge, I see that Netherlands and in Spain sort of has sort of actually picked up going into August. In case you may sort of elaborate how we’re seeing in numerous international locations, distinction when it comes to how issues are panning out from July to August? That is query one. On query 2 is your 2Q numbers under EBITDA has been sort of struggling as a consequence of extra liquidity you’re holding. So you’ve gotten excessive money readily available, however you’ve got broadly sort of drawn down loads of extra sort of debt as properly. How ought to we take into consideration curiosity prices going ahead for the following 12 months?

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [18]

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Okay. The query on the totally different components of Europe. I might say, you are proper. So in Spain, we’re seeing occupancy going as much as like within the excessive 40s as much as 50s that is sort of like the newest development that we have seen. So in Spain, we’re really doing fairly properly. Additionally in Benelux, once more, we’re additionally seeing occupancies going as much as like within the 40s. That is like within the late July in addition to in Central Europe. So I feel for these international locations that began to reopen slightly bit earlier, they’re beginning to see traction going up fairly quickly. I feel the one one that’s sort of like perhaps lagging slightly bit when it comes to occupancy is Italy. There — when it comes to occupancies is in just like the 30s.

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [19]

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Nicely, in your second query, our precedence or fundamental precedence is to maintain liquidity in — inside the firm. In order that’s why there is a debt drawdown. In case you take a look at, particularly through the month of lockdown, April and Might, particularly in Might, when we now have unfavorable — excessive unfavorable working money circulate, we need to ensure that we now have sufficient and enough liquidity in hand. So in the midst of subsequent 12 months, it nonetheless is dependent upon the state of affairs. If we see the development in our operation, which might herald a optimistic working money circulate, we’d launch among the working cap or liquidity that we now have after which curiosity can come down alongside the evolution of the state of affairs. However as I mentioned, the principle precedence is to maintain liquidity as a lot as potential at this level.

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Unidentified Analyst, [20]

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And will you speak a bit on the room charges in NH for various international locations?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [21]

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Okay. Nicely, simply now, I instructed you about room fee in July, simply to provide you some coloration. For Minor Resort in complete, July ADR come down by 22%. For NH, it is come down by about 21%. Elsewhere…

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [22]

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Sorry, (inaudible), did you need the room charges for just like the totally different international locations in Europe?

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Unidentified Analyst, [23]

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Sure.

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [24]

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In Europe solely or…

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Unidentified Analyst, [25]

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(inaudible) NH. Sure.

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [26]

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Okay.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [27]

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In case you take a look at — once more, it additionally varies. In Spain, it is down like within the — and — properly, let’s simply take a look at the development, proper? So I am simply going to sort of provide the development in like July. Spain is unquestionably when it comes to sort of just like the discount in room fee, it is really been bettering. So it is down within the excessive 20s in Spain. Italy is like in mid-20s. Benelux is nearly 20%. After which Central Europe is lower than 10% down.

Our subsequent query is on NH, once more. Does payroll subsidies from authorities in Europe already booked within the second quarter? And have you ever been in a position to reduce your resort lease liabilities in Europe?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [28]

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Sure, the payroll subsidy occurred in second quarter and likewise within the third quarter. And in addition lease cost, we negotiate to scale back down our rental in Europe considerably as properly. However going ahead, we’d attempt to do on a long-term foundation, convert among the fastened elements to a extra variable elements as a lot as we are able to. So the fee discount that occurred on the again of negotiating with landlord shall be just about extra pronounced this 12 months. However for subsequent 12 months, we now have to see and additional with our landlords too.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [29]

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So in case you take a look at — when it comes to reimbursement of those liabilities on this slide, you possibly can see that within the first quarter, we’re really — we’re paying about THB 3.Three billion. However within the second quarter, it is all the way down to THB 1.Eight million. So it has been decreased due to the lease negotiations.

Subsequent is about NH as properly. As NH Resort focuses on company clients. And the way may NH Resort regulate its methods to different group of consumers?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [30]

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No, really, in case you take a look at the slides, NH has B2C buyer as excessive as 60% to 70%. In order that additionally helped. They’re seeing sooner restoration from B2C section, which account for as excessive as 70% of their buyer feeder portfolio.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [31]

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That is extra on excessive stage. Because the state of affairs prolongs, what are MINT’s subsequent technique is to boost the liquidity and the efficiency total.

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [32]

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Proper now, we now have fairly substantial liquidity. As I discussed to you earlier, we now have nearly like a THB 60 billion liquidity with money of THB 36 billion, with working credit score facility of THB 26 billion. And with the profitable perps proper providing and warrants which are going to herald one other THB 5 billion, we nonetheless — we’re not so involved about our liquidity at this level. Regardless that there are going to be a smaller second wave or third wave, we nonetheless imagine that we will face up to that impression with our liquidity that we now have in hand proper now. If not worst-case situation going ahead within the following 12 months, like we now have been telling traders prior to now or what we now have accomplished prior to now, like asset rotation technique that we had, the promoting of the Tivoli belongings. Final 12 months, the promoting of Maldivian belongings final 12 months and we nonetheless have a fairly important good asset in our portfolio. In worst-case situation, if we now have to enhance liquidity by the use of capital or asset rotation, we now have this selection on the desk nonetheless.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [33]

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Khun [Anusha] has raised his fingers within the chatbox. (overseas language) Subsequent on the fee saving. Is there any potential value saving additional on the current line of 25% to 30% down?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [34]

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Nicely, we are going to proceed to obtain value saving measures on an ongoing foundation. However the — I feel the majority of it, we now have already seen and reported within the presentation. However we’d attempt to collect extra numbers and knowledge through the third quarter, and we’re in all probability going to replace you on the finish of the third quarter.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [35]

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The subsequent query is on the business. Might you please share the business outlook after COVID? How a lot capability is in Thailand and Europe in your view that may lower after the COVID-19?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [36]

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Nicely, I’ve to place it this fashion. COVID state of affairs has weeded out among the smaller gamers, among the gamers that do not have sturdy — a powerful platform and among the gamers that do not have sufficient capability to boost liquidity or funding. So loads of the smaller gamers have gone below. So we’d hope to achieve a few of these market shares. In addition to the — among the gamers that was once well-liked prior to now, principally, these sharing financial system lodging gamers. However with this COVID state of affairs, individuals are extra involved on hygiene and security requirements. In order that they would favor, like I mentioned, any resort chain that had sturdy model reliability. So the shift to — from these sharing financial system lodging participant with out correct security and hygiene requirements to a correct resort chain with certification, with model protocol like us, we’d hope that we’d in all probability acquire extra market share going ahead on the again of this pandemic.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [37]

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Subsequent query is on NH. Why did Europe underperform your expectation in July? And what’s your expectations within the coming months?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [38]

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Nicely, like I mentioned, there’s some like some information flows or smaller, second wave, third wave that occurred in Europe, right here and there, for instance, in Spain.

In order that’s in all probability a part of the explanation why we nonetheless see — as a result of once we forecast again then, we assume that there isn’t a second wave or third wave that coming — to return in below our base case situation. However like I mentioned, we’d hope to select up within the the rest of third quarter or within the fourth quarter, as a result of it appears just like the state of affairs continues to be below management. So we hope to see a greater quantity within the fourth quarter.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [39]

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Subsequent query is on money readily available. Might you please share money on excessive stage and expectations going ahead?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [40]

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Nicely, money readily available is THB 36 billion. After which individually, we now have credit score services of THB 26 billion. So I feel like I reiterate it time and again, it is sufficient for us to go on all through the rest of the 12 months and subsequent 12 months, though there can be going to be one other smaller wave of the virus. We nonetheless suppose that is enough after our complete capital elevating plan that we efficiently accomplished.

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Jutatip Adulbhan, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – VP of IR [41]

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On the covenant waiver situation that we now have to take care of complete debt lower than THB 150 billion. Is that this THB 150 billion in solely interest-bearing debt or all sort of debt?

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Emmanuel Jude Dillipraj Rajakarier, Minor Worldwide Public Firm Restricted – Group CEO, COO & Director [42]

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Curiosity-bearing debt.

So is there any extra questions? You’ll be able to nonetheless ship your query to our Investor Relations division in a while and we are going to attempt to tackle each single query that you’ve after the decision as properly.

Okay. Nicely, if there isn’t any extra query, thanks for attending this analyst assembly on-line. And sorry for some technical downside that we had early on. We hope to enhance this going ahead. And in addition be happy to ship your suggestions, feedback or questions you’ve gotten, and we are going to tackle it as quickly as we are able to. Thanks very a lot.

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